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hello. you're watching "gmt" on bbc world news with me. our top stories. evidence emerges of human rights violations committed during the conflict in ukraine. the new u.n. report says pro russian rebels and ukraine's military has carried out murders, torture and abduction. 3 million and rising, the number of syrians who fled their country. it's a new grim milestone, but nearly half the population has left their homes. aviation in iceland is on red alert after a volcano eruption is live.
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also on the program, marion looks at troubled times for the malaysia airlines. >> the carrier has laid out plans to restructure. 6,000 jobs go, many international routes scrapped. are the changes enough to save the airline? hello there. it's midday here in london. 11:00 a.m. where we'll be later. 2:00 p.m. in ukraine where the u.n. says both sides in the conflict carried out murders, torture and abductions in the east of the country. it accuses ukraine's military of serious human right s abuse including torture. >> pro-russian rebels continue a fight back against ukrainian government forces after weeks in
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which they have been forced under defensive. this is unverified footage. sf significantly kiev and the west say this has been fought back by russian military involvement. the defiant rally by ukrainian loyalists for those sudden willy under threat in the conflict the united nations says has already cost 2,500 lives. in a new report the human rights watch says in underground rooms like this, rebels have detained hundreds of civilians and have tortured them and abused. this leader is willing to open a corridor for trapped ukrainian troops in response from vladimir putin. the statement merely underlines the separatists are controlled by the kremlin. how is the west now going to
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respond to what it says is escalating russian involvement in the fighting? >> russia is already more isolated than any time since the end of the cold war. investorskrecreasingly staying out. economy is on decline. this going into ukraine will bring more costs and consequences for russia. >> eu leaders meeting this weekend landfall lowill look at sanctions following this turn in the crisis. this satellite image shows russian combat forces in and around eastern ukraine. moscow still denies such involvement. indeed in his latest remarks, the russian leader is on the defensive accusing kiev of an assault in eastern ukraine remaneembeanence ent to world w. this outside the military base
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in russia of relatives of servicemen saying they're in ukraine and demanding answers about their whereabouts. the wreckage and costs of this conflict are plain to see. a way out seems as elusive as ever. >> there's a lot move on this story in the last couple of hours. nato ambassadors have been meeting in brussels in the last a 15 minutes. the secretary general held a press conference there. this is what he had to say about the crisis in ukraine. >> russian forces are engaged in direct military operations inside ukraine. russia continues to spupply the accept ra tests with ta-- the s with tanks, armored rockets.
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it has fired on russian territory and ukraine itself. more over russia maintains thousands of combat ready troops close to ukraine's borders. this is a blatant violation of ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity. >> the host recent fighting seems to be focused around the town near the strategically important city of mariupol. andrew cramer joins me from there on the telephone. thanks if for speaking to us. it has not fallen. it's a 40 minute drive from mariupol. are people worried where you are? >> caller: yes, they are. thank you for having me on the program. we drove into mariupol just a few minutes ago. many cars loaded with belongings clearly refugees leaving the
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city. we're seeing that on the road. >> and so people are trying to get out of town now, are they? >> caller: they are. we were here a few days ago. this is a resort town. we saw people on the beach at that time not terribly worried. there was a flow of traffic out today. i spoke to colleagues near the area and they say the combat in region is ongoing. they saw helicopters which is unusual. ukrainians have not been flying because of threat of missiles. we don't know who these helicopters are. >> who do you think they might be? >>caller: choices are russian or ukrainian. >> so you think they're using helicopters in the mariupol area. >> caller: this is unconfirmed but we have heard, yes. >> we've seen pictures of people in mariupol protesting and demonstrating in support of the
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kiev government earlier in the week. you say now it's about turning and running, getting out of town. >> caller: people want to get their families to safety whatever their political views. this city is ukrainian and had never participated on any level in the separatist movement. there were protests in support of ukraine early on. workers came out and controlled the streets of ukraine. now tables are turned. you have a pro russian force approaching a very strong ukrainian city after weeks of ukrainian army surrounding donetsk and luhansk. >> what are people making of the reports of russian troops being involved. today the russian foreign minister called those conject e conjectures and said the west show nod evidence of that. what do people think about russian troops maybe being involved? >> caller: i think people view
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this plausibly. as a bit of analysis, it's my view that the russian goal is not to come in ukraine with regular troops but yet bolster capabilities. i don't expect a broader russian intervention here. anything of course could happen. the way it's perceived by local people is a counter offensive stage by the separatist donetsk people's republic with support from russia. a russian invasion not connected with the people's republic movement. >> joining us live from mariupol, thanks very much andrew. what is president putin's plan? with me the russian expert, peter. thanks for coming in. we've seen president putin in the last half hour or so give
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comments. he's been saying things like that the ukrainian army and encircling cities in the east of the country is the nazi siege during world war ii. those are arranged for russian audience or people outside russia? >> the russian audience and also russian speaking outside. people in eastern ukraine follow what putin says closely. we've seen this use of sort of nazi language from the start of the conflict. that's one of the ways the kremlin has been trying to frame this historically and emotionally. this is a battle of fasism, continuation of world war ii and so forth. >> is there support for putin among ordinary russians? >> i always hate the phrase ordinary russians. the statistics show support is in the 80s. >> 80%? >> yeah, 80%. something we should bear in mind
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people are also quite frightened. at the same time as war is happening, there's new legislation to punish anyone for various forms of depp cescent. love and fear go together in russia. >> what signs are people seeing that they may be involved in a war on their doorstep many. >> it goes down to statistics. most russians don't think they're at war. most russians don't support russia going to war. they think maybe we should be somehow supporting diplomatically separatists. that's what statistics are telling us. statistics can be dodgey. there's no support for a big war push. the emotional support for ukrainians. >> because there's no support for a war push, is that why if putin is sending troops over, he's doing it on the sly? >> very much on the sly. this is the cleverness of this war. it's a tactic like slice off a
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little at a time. very much so. there seems to be quite a lot of discourt in russia about the idea body bags are coming back, troops coming back dead. they're not given official burials. ngo's which look after the rights of military personnel have started asking questions. this is something putin doesn't want. he doesn't want body bags in our area. >> we've seen the mothers of russian paratroopers held in ukraine on television in russia saying brings our sons home. that's what putin doesn't want more of. he's going to get it if this carries on. >> mary dripping the word war into the media. they're testing the ground pushing this forward. so far the official line is this is not our business. we're helping southern brothers the way we can. now they're going to push a little further, what's the mood. >> okay. we'll be monitoring and may have you back on to tell us what the
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mood is. thanks for coming in for the moment. let me bring you other stories making headlines around the world. japan's defense ministry made the biggest ever budget request in the middle of the dispute with i china. the industry asked if for 3.5% increase on last year. if approved it would mark the third year in a row the budget has been increased after a decade of cuts. new scandal for toronto's mayor rob poford. now a catholic school says he acted inappropriately, threated a teacher, turned up drunk and made players roll in animal feces. he was fired from that job last year. google launches air drones
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to deliver products to people. these have been kept secret until now. they're tested delivering packages to remote farms in queen land and australia from neighboring properties. let's bring you the latest on the syrian crisis now. the refugee situation will there is called the biggest humanitarian emergency of our era by the united nations. the conflict started three and awe a half years ago. now the number of refugees registered inies reached the 3 mark. inside syria there are 6.5 million still displaced. that means nearly half of syria's 18 million population has been forced from their homes. turkey, iraq and jordan are struggling to cope with hundreds of thousands of refugees flooding in. lebanon has the majority with
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1.2 million. the u.n. says the world is failing to meet the needs of refugees and the country is hosting them. >> refugees are a rising in the devastating state. they're arriving hungry, traumatized and exhausted. the needs are ever growing. there's donated over $4 billion. we need more than $2 billion before the end of the year. refugees are in need of urgent winter assistance in the coming weeks. a lot of refugees have to face a journey fleeing to neighboring countries. sometimes family members on the way to experience the fleeing so many times which is traumatizing. needs are ever growing. this is why urgent additional assistance is needed for refugees.
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>> that's a spokesperson for the u.n. refugee agency. with me to talk more about this, sebastion. this figure of 3 million is a grim milestone. these are registered refugees, people tallied by the u.n. does that suggest will there have could be many more? >> there are many more. in lebanon, talking 1.2 million. there are estimates putting the actual figure up toward 2 million. a lot of people who haven't registered haven't because they don't want to be in the camps that are there. in lebanon, it's a similar story. similar stories in other countries where it's not organized by the central government. other organizations are doing this. i visited camps. they're obviously not the place you want to be if you can afford to be outside them. >> many living amongst hosts? >> yes. even where the camps are, there are people in the towns paying extra to have a house in the town rather than be in the
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camps. people are actually overlooking where the camps are. there's a lot of movement. syrian refugees that have gone to lebanon, go back. the ones who aren't registered and have reasonable resources. when it's safe to go back, quite a few go back. when they feel it's no longer safe in syria, they return. >> so there's back and forth? >> the ones with resources hah are able to do that. >> the u.n. appeals for $2 billion short fall. that means they can provide less. how do people cope? >> a lot of what is provided is not coming from the central government. lebanon would be unable to do that. wouldn't have the possibility to at the moment. keeping refugees at arm's length so there are other groups that are relying very much on money
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coming from u.n. it varies from place to place. when you travel around for example in lebanon in the valley, what you see are many, many little refugee camps all over the place that have arisen. people in those places i wouldn't say are in dire straights. quite often the people of those villages and towns come together to help them because they have relationship across border. in some places the situation is appalling. they've been taken from their country and have no idea when they can go back, living in tiny spaces with families. it's not desperate the situation. in other places the conditions are worse, food is lacking, supplies are lacking. >> awful conditions they have to indure. thanks very much for coming down and speaking to us about that. stay with us here on bbc. plenty more to come including this. another volcano and another eruption.
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you're watching "gmt" with me. now to iceland. that country has issued a red alert after an eruption near the site of the volcano system. scientists say an eruption around a kilometer long started spewing lava overnight in a field nor fie north. it's raised worries of an eruption to disrupt air travel. we are an expert joining us. thanks very much for speaking to us. you raised the alert level to red. presumably you must be worried. >> yes, we are. this small lava eruption is
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combination of two weeks of relentless earthquake activity. this is overlain by several hundred meters of glacier ice. this is beneath the icecap. the explosion of mag ma and ice would produce large amounts of lava. the eruption that began today is a small lava flow on a fisher churg in a pre-existing lava field. it seems to have taken pressure off this large intrusion of mag ma, a vertical sheet of molten rock that's traveled a great distance, almost 40 kilometers from the site of the volume da day -- volcano. the main concern is if the eruption begins beneath the ice. >> that's what happened four
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years ago right? yes, that's right. when volcanos erupt beneath ice, there's water present because of intense heat this. melt water acts to quench the molten rock. mag ma is emerging clinched by water and helps to fragment the lava into tiny particles lofted into the air. that's how ash is produced. >> we see a picture of the ash plume from 2010. we know the problem it caused for travelers. at the moment they've closed air space. is that changing? >> yes, it is changing rapidly. this is done as a precaution. the eruption occurred during hours of darkness. the initial restriction is a much larger area. that has been reduced. once the eruption site was
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confirmed and scales of eruption was known. there's no ash warnings. this at the moment poses no implications for international air travel. >> problem is it's difficult to predict. matthew roberts, don't go anywhere. we'll probably call on you in the next few days as it changes a again. for now, i think we're all right. thanks very much indeed. here in the uk, the animal protection organization rspca wants people to be banned from owning monkeys and primates as pets as it describes an alarming number of calls to the advice line. now one abandoned animal is living in a home with cats and dogs after his owner couldn't cope with him. >> the bark dogs, the cutest of cats, rabbits, snakes, those
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arrived. his owners have kept him in a bird cage in their front room. he started to bite them, and they could to no longer cope. he is now looked after by one of the staff here emily. >> he's been here about two and a half weeks now i think. basically a couple had him as a pet. they were really struggling to cope with him. it was a massive issue for them. that's why in the end they had to contact rspca to help them. they couldn't control him anymore. >> mickey's story is not unique. rspca has seen a 73% rise in calls to the help line for people having problems looking after monkeys as pets. >> you don't need any
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qualifications or license to own a primate like this. the trade in them is virtually unregulated. they're sold on the internet and can go up to 1,000 pounds at a time. >> the rspca estimates there are between 3,000 and 9,000 primates kept as pets in this country. >> he's a wild animal, bred in captivity. they're wildness never changes. they're social animals n. the wild they live with a group between three and 15. they spend the day socializing, looking for food, no normal household could provide that for primate. >> some say with the proper research and time, monkeys can be can kept as pets. welfare charities continue to call for a ban saying it's simply inhumane to keep our closest relatives from the natural world in a cage in a
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ahead in this half hour, we'll look at ed that emerged of human rights violations it committed in ukraine. pro russian rebels and ukraine's military have said to of carried out murders, abduction. 20,000 people could have ebola, much higher than official figures. we'll ask how do you track an outbreak like this. also on the program, marion looks at what's happening in business. there are worrying economic figures coming from the
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eurozone. consumer prices in the region rose in august. the drop is food and energy prices putting pressure on the bank to take action. more on that coming up shortly. welcome back to the program. let's return to our top story. the situation in ukraine. very fluent today. human rights watch friday published what it says are horrendous human rights abuses. a u.n. report criticizes ukraine's government for similar offenses. meanwhile president obama said on thursday that pro russian rebels are funded, trained and armed by russia. something russia has denied.
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with me the former ambassador to ukraine. thanks coming to speak to us. let's get your take on two reports, one from human rights watch and one from the u.n. which criticizes and fights human rights abuses against both sides. >> thank you. i've seen the human rights watch report. i haven't seen the u.n. report. it's clear that there's increasing evidence of human right abuses, killings, tortures, kidnappings mostly by the rebels insurgents in eastern ukraine. this has been going on since april. the evidence is mounting up. it's increasingly difficult for them to hide now. there's a great deal of criminal activity. >> the u.n. saying the ukrainian military is also at fault here. is that surprising to you? >> it's quite possible. i haven't seen that report.
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the weight of the evidence is on the activities of the separatists and criminals working with separatists. >> now there's a lot going on with this story today. a lot of people speaking. president putin has been speaking, lavrov, the foreign minister said west failed to present facts to back the claims that russian military hardware is actually at work in eastern ukraine. what do you make of russia's stance at the moment? it seems to be a hardening stance doesn't it? >> russia's stance is of trying to have their cake and eat it. they're trying to keep on denying the evident facts on the ground. the more facts that come out whether photographs of russian tanks and artillery coming across the border or captured russia personnel giving evidence to the ukrainian authorities or bodies of russian soldiers being taken back to russia. the fact and the evidence is there. it's become increasingly
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difficult to accept anything that the russians are saying. their words are completely out of line with what is happening. >> so when putin as you said this morning, not long ago, addressed supporters and said the ukrainian government force surrounding city miss the east of ukraine is the nazi siege in world war ii. does that fit with what you're saying there? >> this is hclaiming they're reincarnation of the fasist. older people remember the sufferings caused in the second world war. if you look at the ukrainian presidential election ends of may, out of 20 candidates, two who might be considered nationalists right wing candidates. between them they got 2% of the
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vote. >> meanwhile, ukrainian prime minister has been saying that he is seeking to join nato. how's that going to go down in the kremlin? >> it will go down badly in the kremlin. i'm a bit surprised he has come out with that. president poroshenko has been saying nato membership is not on the agenda for ukraine. i would have thought now is not the time to raise that. clearly that's the most sensitive issue for russia. it hasn't been on the agenda. i thought whether there's a majority of people in ukraine who would want that. >> we'll bring the former british ambassador of ukraine. thanks for speaking to us. the world health organization warns nearly 20,000 could be infected and it needs $2 billion to contain the virus. it has become the deadliest spread of the disease since discovery in 1976.
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according to most recent figures, more than 3,000 cases are reported including 1,500 deaths. in liberia, more than 600 have lost their lives. we've been to the ivory coast border where preparations are made to keep ebola from spreading further. >> an unnerving silence replaces the formally vibrant border. all crossing points into liberia and guinea were closed for the weekend. the latest government efforts to avoid ebola. trucks are beginning to pile up on this side of the border. authorities say health is more important than trade, but people here have no idea when the borders are going to reopen. >> people are suffering financially. many are relieved the the borders are closed. this family is on the other side. they can't come back. she says it's difficult, but the fear of ebola is worse.
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>> translator: i'm afraid of death because it's not a trip you can return from. we've been told not to eat bush meat, not to shake hands, and not to have sex. >> reporter: beyond these mountains lies liberia where ebola is out of control. to the east is guinea. thick porous rain forest is all that separates the two worst hit ebola nations. this is one of five ebola treatment centers in the region. doctors are practicing what to do if a suspected case arrived. every detail is considered. >> translator: we've done the maximum possible to be ready and vigilant to control the situation as soon as any suspected case arrives. you can never be ready enough, but i think we're strong enough to fight this epidemic. >> the heat inside the suit is
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the biggest difficulty, he says. two or three hours is the longest anyone can last. closing borders and suspending flights is active, but the ivory coast will do anything it can to fight ebola. bbc news. >> ivory coast there struggling to try to keep the virus out. track the spread of ebola has been one of the biggest challenges throughout this recent outbreak. to get an idea of how difficult it is, i'm joined from the infectious disease london school of hygiene and tropical medicine. thanks for coming in. first of all a, how is it possible there could be 20,000 infected when official figures say 3,000? >> so in these kind of outbreaks there's a lot of delays we have to deal with. first of all we have delay when someone becomes infected then symptom mattic after the ind
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incubation period. it may be a while to seek health care. then it takes a while for health care patients to show up in figures. actual counts are 3,000 at the moment. there may be more well to come. >> what does that mean for a attempts to control or stamp out the outbreak? >> it's difficult and hard to say in real time that the outbreak is over now. if there were no cases tomorrow, we couldn't say for sure the outbreak is finished. we have to wait firstly for cases symptom mattic to show up and also they've come in contact with others in the community. there's the incubation period up to 21 days. we'd have to follow up contacts and see a if they became symptom mattic as well. >> countries in the last year or so say you have to go six months without new cases emerging to say the outbreak is over. would that be the same kind of
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criteria? >> polio has different characteristics but it would be at least several weeks before you could say for certain. you've got to to wait out the incubation period and delay in reports. >> how people travel obviously -- how do you then go about tracking the spread of the virus like this? >> in previous outbreaks, one of the effective control measures has been isolation and contact tracing. if you isolate people who have symptoms, follow up who they've had contact with. make sure those people are isolated as well. this is a demanding task. of course we're missing thousands or hundreds of cases on health care systems already stretched. it becomes increasingly difficult to trace down contacts of people who have been affected. >> when the world health organization says it needs $500 million to bring this outbreak under control over a period of six to nine months, is that doable. would you agree with that?
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>> i haven't seen the break down of figures. it looks like something that's going to be months, weeks to control. as well as the ebola cases in hospitals, a lot of countries have a big burden. not just ebola patients suffering at the moment. anyone in need of health care in these cities will be affected. it's creating a lot of damage in some of these areas. >> dr. adam from the london school of hygiene and medicine. thank you for being with us. stay with us on bbc world news. still plenty to come. is there still gold in them hills? we meet the 20th century gold miners in california. 3rd and 3. 58 seconds on the clock, what am i thinking about? foreign markets. asian debt that recognizes the shift in the global economy. you know, the kind that capitalizes on diversity across the credit spectrum and gets exposure to frontier and emerging markets. if you convert 4-quarter p/e of the s&p 500,
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hello. these are the top story this is hour. the u.n. published evidence of human rights abuses in ukraine. it says rebel forces and ukrainian army are guilty among other things abduction and torture. the refugee agency says the syrian crisis is the biggest emergency of our era. okay. marion is here with the business news and more on the malaysian airlines restructuring plan. >> the we knew it was coming. final details have been noi announced. it's been a tragic year for the flight carrier. it's been hit by twin disasters, disappearance of mh370 and shooting down of mh 17 over ukraine. hundreds of lives were lost and the icon tarnished perhaps forever. on friday the fund announced a $1.1 billion lifeline. 6,000 of the work force will
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lose their jobs. john reports. >> after weeks of uncertainty, the man in charge of the malaysian government 70% stake outlined his drastic survival plan for the airline to survive. he said 6,000 jobs would have to go. >> at its call, the plan involved the the creation of a new company which will house the new max and migration of the right sized work force and and work practices and contracts. >> malaysia airlines was already in deep financial trouble, but for two disasters this year, it has pushed to the brink. mh 17 was shot down over ukraine in july. the search goes on for mh370 missing without trace since march. passengers have taken little comfort from malaysia's previous good safety record or the fact
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that both incident appear to have been unforeseeable. by some estimates the airline is losing around $2 billion a day. the loss of two planes has only heightened the inevitable for this bloatened insufficient carrier. job cuts will keep further misery on staff, some who have lost personal friends on those flights. it will bring ratios in line with singapore airlines, a rival that's distinguished itself over one regard, it's managed to make a profit. >> the company says it's begun looking for a new ceo. some long haul flight routes will be cut. the malaysia airline name will remain unchanged. in total $2 billion is spent on
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the effort to keep one of the most tainted names in aviation history in the skies. bbc news shanghai. >> a partner at the aviation strategy, one thing we heard, the name is not changing. i'm surprised, are you? >> maybe they will change it in the end. if you think about it, malaysian airlines is there for the good of malaysia. the they can't change the name of malaysia. it is basically a strategic asset for then. >> they are doing quite a lot though besides that. they're cutting steady part of the work force, out canning back on international routes, becoming a basic regional airline a. are these aspects of change going to be enough you think to get the airlines through? >> it's a huge opportunity to start effectively from scratch.
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like many legacy carriers around the world, they have built up facts that's difficult to get rid of. when you're faced with huge amount of competition, the competition has increased dramatically in the last decade. particularly in that region where you're seeing the likes of the lowest costs in the industry right through to gulf carriers who are taking traffic away from the likes of mas on the longer hall routes. the opportunity is very good for them to set up a completely new organization. >> of course the issues here have been ongoing even before the two disasters that we saw earlier in the year. >> yes. the competitive forces have been quite dramatic, particularly in the last few years.
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although your correspondent said earlier singapore has been making money and profits, it's not making a large amount of profit. it's suffering from the same sort of effect. the other thing is that malaysian does have a lot of domestic traffic. the shorter haul is much more difficult to make money out of. >> good to get your point of view. thank you very much. >> you're welcome. times remain hard in the 18 countries that use the euro. prices rose the slowest rate for five years in august. not necessarily good news it seems as it assigned firms and households aren't spending and not generating wealth either. the european central a bank target for healthy inflation is around 2% a year. in fact the president called anything below 1% the danger zone. figures show prices rising well below the data zone 0.3% for that month. that's going to put pressure to borrowing cost and pump into the
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economy to help struggling families and fans. >> this time it's germany, the core, which has slowed significantly. this has nothing to do with the euro crisis. this comes from a broad. it comes from ukraine. this crisis there hits the country which is most exposed to russia and ukraine. that's germany via trade and energy links. the core is affected this time. that makes it easy for the ecb to stimulate the economy. it were the germans so far against the ecb doing more. >> that's a round up of all the latest business from me. back to you. >> thank you very much. this is a kind of business story i suppose. global down tuturn in years for many to find ways to make ends meet. the photographer spent four years among people living along river banks in national parks
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hoping to strike it rich. >> the in 2009 i was still recovering from the loss of my mother. i wanted to go out west to go to an artist residency. when applying to that, i was looking into projects i could potentially pursue out there. it started in may 2009. that year the united states experienced the worst financial crisis since the great depression of the 1930s. highly leveraged banks imploded. millions were laid off from jobs, foreclosure rates skyrocketed. savings of retirees were wiped out. the average price of gold between 2005-2010 quadrupled. i happened to meet what i would call the protagonist of the book, martin. he was this little guy, smaller
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than all the others, but who worked obsessively. who would move gigantic six foot bolders out of the river to try and find gold. medela came with her husband jeff from idaho. she's working in a hole sifting material into a bucket that jeff dug out of the hole. this is dwayne and his dog moses. dwayne basically came out i believe in 2011 or 2012 for just a week with very few materials. i think just a couple of intertubes. he went up and down the river along the banks and managed to get enough gold that he could
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bury his mother that passed away that year. >> in this day and age yes, there's still a sense of gold fever that existed this the 19th century of people going out in mass out west. there's also an interesting aspect in the modern age which is that i feel there's a lot of people who feel they want to abandoned a cubicle lifestyle. who don't want to work in theoretical ideas in an office, who want to work with their hands and find something. >> few years ago, i found a teeny tiny piece of gold. wasn't worth much. it was worth the experience. california is a long way to look for gold. crowds have been digging up the coastline here in england to search for 30 gold bars hidden under the sand. it's part of an art festival
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taking place in the town. >> reporter: it was really busy here last night. not too bad this morning. it is low water. that's the best time. at high tide, boats refloat. then this entire area tends to fill up. people have been digging this morning. some are using larger shovels. everybody has got a technique. there are 30 of these gold bars worth 10,000 pounds in total. really small ones worth about 250 pounds and bigger ones worth 500 pounds. let's have a chat. you've been digging furiously. tell us what your technique is. >> find gold. sift through it, stay in one patch, stick with it. >> reporter: we're told they're shiny, quite small as big as a dog tag. they're easy to miss. >> now that i know it's like a dog tag, i'll look for them.
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i've found a couple of pebbles but that's it. >> carry on digging. >> thanks. >> reporter: there's one over in the distance with a metal detector. we've had a few here this morning to try and level the playing field. the organizers have buried small metal washers in the sand as well to try and confuse the metal detectors so they don't get unfair advantage. it's part of public art and unusual art form as well i suppose. you're using this tool of best use. what's your technique? >> just luck. >> reporter: how long have you been down here this morning? >> since about half eight. >> reporter: good couple of hours? >> yeah. >> reporter: if you find one, will you keep it secret? will you tell us? >> i'll tell people. otherwise people won't believe it. it would be nice to know it
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